1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:11,308 thank you everybody and good afternoon 2 00:00:04,819 --> 00:00:15,539 good afternoon talk this this this is 3 00:00:11,308 --> 00:00:18,719 all I know in in Danish so far this 4 00:00:15,539 --> 00:00:21,750 lectures will be in in English but if 5 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:23,640 they have given me to board and aquavit 6 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:26,609 enough I probably would be speaking in 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:29,609 Danish as well maybe next time 8 00:00:26,609 --> 00:00:33,510 well folks it's a great pleasure to be 9 00:00:29,609 --> 00:00:37,350 with you this afternoon in this EXA 10 00:00:33,509 --> 00:00:40,378 politic meeting and I congratulate you 11 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:44,489 guys from Danish or Denmark XO politic 12 00:00:40,378 --> 00:00:48,119 for doing such a good good job and get 13 00:00:44,488 --> 00:00:51,209 integrated with ufology and other X 14 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:53,128 ability groups all over Scandinavia all 15 00:00:51,210 --> 00:00:56,189 over Europe and other parts of the world 16 00:00:53,128 --> 00:01:00,839 now this is very important because we 17 00:00:56,189 --> 00:01:05,519 are in to all 15 a UFO phenomena has 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:07,829 been on with us for almost 70 years it's 19 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:13,469 about time or something big to happen 20 00:01:07,829 --> 00:01:17,340 and we must be aware and United so when 21 00:01:13,469 --> 00:01:21,930 it comes will we'll face it with more 22 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:25,020 knowledge and more wisdom now part of it 23 00:01:21,930 --> 00:01:28,670 is to know what the government's know 24 00:01:25,019 --> 00:01:33,420 about UFOs and they are not telling us I 25 00:01:28,670 --> 00:01:36,379 have been specializing myself in that 26 00:01:33,420 --> 00:01:40,829 kind of information especially in Brazil 27 00:01:36,379 --> 00:01:45,929 now maybe some of you don't know but 28 00:01:40,828 --> 00:01:48,929 right now over 20 somebody told me 29 00:01:45,930 --> 00:01:53,009 yesterday 21 but over 20 at least 30 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:57,450 countries in the world have revealed 31 00:01:53,009 --> 00:02:00,989 it's their secrets about UFOs some of 32 00:01:57,450 --> 00:02:04,170 these secrets are not big deal but some 33 00:02:00,989 --> 00:02:09,378 of them are really very important to 34 00:02:04,170 --> 00:02:13,378 know now Brazil has a long history with 35 00:02:09,378 --> 00:02:15,479 ufology with sightings of UFOs and we 36 00:02:13,378 --> 00:02:18,449 have had 37 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:22,318 our government dealing with this for 38 00:02:18,449 --> 00:02:26,009 quite some time now I'll take you 39 00:02:22,318 --> 00:02:28,768 through the process that we did in 40 00:02:26,009 --> 00:02:32,939 Brazil we the civilian UFO researchers 41 00:02:28,769 --> 00:02:35,700 did in Brazil to get it to release its 42 00:02:32,939 --> 00:02:38,310 UFO FILES most of them from the 43 00:02:35,699 --> 00:02:42,179 Brazilian Air Force very few from the 44 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:45,150 Navy and known whatsoever yet from the 45 00:02:42,180 --> 00:02:48,030 Army these are three separate forces and 46 00:02:45,150 --> 00:02:51,989 of course they built weather UFO 47 00:02:48,030 --> 00:02:54,209 phenomena differently and while the 48 00:02:51,989 --> 00:02:57,000 Brazilian Air Force or any Air Force in 49 00:02:54,209 --> 00:03:01,409 the world is more open to our subject if 50 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:04,459 it is open at all their armies the 51 00:03:01,409 --> 00:03:07,469 country's armies are not that much 52 00:03:04,459 --> 00:03:08,969 probably most of the armies simply don't 53 00:03:07,469 --> 00:03:11,549 want to talk about it because there are 54 00:03:08,969 --> 00:03:14,818 different mentalities among these kind 55 00:03:11,549 --> 00:03:17,599 of militaries now let me start by 56 00:03:14,818 --> 00:03:22,679 telling you something that is going on 57 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:24,959 right now in Brazil and I guess that you 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,359 have never seen this before 59 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:30,420 even those who are more experienced and 60 00:03:27,359 --> 00:03:33,359 more familiarized with the UFO 61 00:03:30,419 --> 00:03:36,530 phenomenon now this is a page of a 62 00:03:33,359 --> 00:03:39,480 publication that is the official 63 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:41,568 publication of Brazil it means that 64 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:44,129 everything the government does 65 00:03:41,568 --> 00:03:46,018 everything that the Congress does 66 00:03:44,129 --> 00:03:48,500 everything that the Senate does 67 00:03:46,019 --> 00:03:53,819 everything that all ministries does 68 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:58,049 everything is published in that every 69 00:03:53,818 --> 00:04:00,328 single day as resolutions so the 70 00:03:58,049 --> 00:04:02,969 government decides to build this road 71 00:04:00,329 --> 00:04:05,849 the government decides to raise the wage 72 00:04:02,969 --> 00:04:09,419 of the public servants whatever it's all 73 00:04:05,848 --> 00:04:13,619 published in that paper so everybody in 74 00:04:09,419 --> 00:04:17,399 the country can know what is going on in 75 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:21,810 our society in our government and in 76 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:25,079 August 10 to old 10 which is only 5 77 00:04:21,810 --> 00:04:27,668 years ago we have the resolution number 78 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:32,378 five five one gc3 79 00:04:27,668 --> 00:04:36,158 issued by the top guy of the brazilian 80 00:04:32,379 --> 00:04:39,039 air force it's commander Brigadier which 81 00:04:36,158 --> 00:04:42,848 is equal to general something idea 82 00:04:39,038 --> 00:04:47,709 Junichi Saito and it was decided that 83 00:04:42,848 --> 00:04:52,449 from that day and forth all reports of 84 00:04:47,709 --> 00:04:54,399 UFO sightings should be received by the 85 00:04:52,449 --> 00:04:56,020 Brazilian Air Force installations in 86 00:04:54,399 --> 00:05:00,158 anywhere in the country 87 00:04:56,019 --> 00:05:05,228 they must be sent to the National 88 00:05:00,158 --> 00:05:07,509 Archives where they can be read by just 89 00:05:05,228 --> 00:05:09,878 about anybody in the country because the 90 00:05:07,509 --> 00:05:12,218 National Archives searches the National 91 00:05:09,879 --> 00:05:16,150 Archives of any country are public files 92 00:05:12,218 --> 00:05:18,639 you can go into the net or you can go 93 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:22,598 physically there and get all information 94 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:25,680 that you want now it basically says that 95 00:05:22,598 --> 00:05:30,699 right now when the Brazilian Air Force 96 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:33,338 gets a report from any citizen in the 97 00:05:30,699 --> 00:05:37,240 country Brazilian or not Brazilian 98 00:05:33,338 --> 00:05:40,240 saying that I had seen UFOs that report 99 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:44,519 is supposed to be made public this is a 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:47,439 law this is a resolution now very unique 101 00:05:44,519 --> 00:05:49,658 nothing like this like that has ever 102 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:54,610 happened anywhere in the world as far as 103 00:05:49,658 --> 00:05:55,959 I know but it didn't come easy and it 104 00:05:54,610 --> 00:05:59,199 didn't come free 105 00:05:55,959 --> 00:06:02,848 it took us Brazilian UFO researchers a 106 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:08,500 lot of work and effort to make it happen 107 00:06:02,848 --> 00:06:14,199 and it always started back in 204 v xi 108 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:18,218 years ago when some of us we were for 109 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:20,770 researchers in Brazil we built an entity 110 00:06:18,218 --> 00:06:23,978 a body which is called Brazilian UFO 111 00:06:20,769 --> 00:06:26,889 researchers committee or CBU in our 112 00:06:23,978 --> 00:06:28,628 language so it's art researchers from 113 00:06:26,889 --> 00:06:29,560 several parts of the country with 114 00:06:28,629 --> 00:06:33,810 different thoughts 115 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:37,870 we left our differences apart to build a 116 00:06:33,810 --> 00:06:41,230 campaign doing to ask the government to 117 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:44,100 come clear about UFOs and that campaign 118 00:06:41,230 --> 00:06:45,550 was called UFOs freedom of information 119 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:49,240 now 120 00:06:45,550 --> 00:06:51,490 the first-ever initiative in the country 121 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:55,000 asking for the government to release its 122 00:06:51,490 --> 00:06:58,960 files and in its first phase phase 123 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:01,420 number one we issued a document fully 124 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:04,629 very clearly what we the Brazilian UFO 125 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:07,949 researchers think about UFO and in 204 126 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:12,670 we issued the Brazilian UFO manifest a 127 00:07:07,949 --> 00:07:15,099 document that gathered 70,000 supporting 128 00:07:12,670 --> 00:07:16,870 signatures from the people people who 129 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:20,050 thought that we're right in asking the 130 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:23,399 government to come clean about UFOs but 131 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:26,079 yet at that moment the government or 132 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:30,339 specifically the Brazilian Air Force did 133 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:33,909 not move too much to acept our request 134 00:07:30,339 --> 00:07:37,899 and to meet our request with a reply 135 00:07:33,910 --> 00:07:40,780 that was satisfactory to us then in 207 136 00:07:37,899 --> 00:07:42,819 we issued the phase number 2 of the 137 00:07:40,779 --> 00:07:45,549 campaign ufos Freedom of Information now 138 00:07:42,819 --> 00:07:48,040 which is basically the dossier UFO 139 00:07:45,550 --> 00:07:52,180 Brazil which was a most compelling 140 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:55,860 document with more data more information 141 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:58,810 in supported by the Brazilian law of 142 00:07:55,860 --> 00:08:00,879 access to information that is the number 143 00:07:58,810 --> 00:08:06,519 11 111 144 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:09,100 of 205 now then something different 145 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:11,439 started to happen and we got lots of 146 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:17,790 papers being released by the government 147 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:21,459 as you see but we are not yet satisfied 148 00:08:17,790 --> 00:08:23,830 we think that the government is yet 149 00:08:21,459 --> 00:08:27,039 withholding lots of viewer for 150 00:08:23,829 --> 00:08:29,859 information and we want all pieces of it 151 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:33,668 we want it all because after all we pay 152 00:08:29,860 --> 00:08:36,430 for that we as taxpayers we as our 153 00:08:33,668 --> 00:08:38,309 citizens we are entitled to know 154 00:08:36,429 --> 00:08:41,379 everything that the government knows and 155 00:08:38,309 --> 00:08:42,579 see we're talking the Brazilian about 156 00:08:41,379 --> 00:08:47,019 the Brazilian government a government 157 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:51,730 that has dealt with UFOs in a very 158 00:08:47,019 --> 00:08:55,059 serious manner for many many years now 159 00:08:51,730 --> 00:08:57,850 since 200 12 we have started 160 00:08:55,059 --> 00:09:00,629 three which is called the Brazilian your 161 00:08:57,850 --> 00:09:07,629 for initiative and it's still going on 162 00:09:00,629 --> 00:09:10,899 but as I told you as of 207 lots of 163 00:09:07,629 --> 00:09:12,850 papers starting to be released and sent 164 00:09:10,899 --> 00:09:16,240 to the National Archives by the 165 00:09:12,850 --> 00:09:16,839 Brazilian Air Force it is kind of old 166 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,289 here 167 00:09:16,839 --> 00:09:24,760 I should have corrected it's not only 168 00:09:19,289 --> 00:09:27,519 6,000 pages about 7,000 pages of UFO 169 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:32,860 related material and they were released 170 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:39,819 in dates first the documents of the 50s 171 00:09:32,860 --> 00:09:42,639 so from 52 1950 to 1959 then from the 172 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:47,050 60s then the 70s then the eighties when 173 00:09:42,639 --> 00:09:52,179 the 80s came a book a book of papers 174 00:09:47,049 --> 00:09:55,359 lots of pages we were astound to see how 175 00:09:52,179 --> 00:09:57,989 many useful and important information 176 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:02,980 the government has been withheld 177 00:09:57,990 --> 00:10:06,159 withholding from the society yeah now 178 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:08,409 the gesture of goodwill the government 179 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:12,219 released the eighties bent the nineties 180 00:10:08,409 --> 00:10:15,149 then the 2000s and just a couple of 181 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:21,009 years ago it released the papers for the 182 00:10:15,149 --> 00:10:23,379 2000 to 2010 we are expecting more to 183 00:10:21,009 --> 00:10:27,850 arrive any time it's all being 184 00:10:23,379 --> 00:10:29,588 declassified now anyone Brazilians or no 185 00:10:27,850 --> 00:10:32,769 not Brazilians can go to the National 186 00:10:29,589 --> 00:10:35,050 Archives and see what is paper contained 187 00:10:32,769 --> 00:10:40,149 I will show some of what it contains 188 00:10:35,049 --> 00:10:43,240 here but also again this is all due to 189 00:10:40,149 --> 00:10:47,519 the fact that Brazilian has a long 190 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:51,970 history with the UFO phenomenon most of 191 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:53,649 the world UFO community doesn't know but 192 00:10:51,970 --> 00:10:57,310 Brazil has been one of the first 193 00:10:53,649 --> 00:11:00,759 countries to acknowledge that UFOs are 194 00:10:57,309 --> 00:11:01,479 for real and they are not terrestrial at 195 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:05,370 all 196 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:08,769 I guess that most of you have heard that 197 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:11,350 France in 1970 198 00:11:08,769 --> 00:11:15,938 six was the first country to ever 199 00:11:11,350 --> 00:11:18,249 release its files in to admit that it 200 00:11:15,938 --> 00:11:20,588 has been investigating UFOs on official 201 00:11:18,249 --> 00:11:21,730 basis and has concluded that they are 202 00:11:20,589 --> 00:11:25,949 extract acid 203 00:11:21,730 --> 00:11:29,798 it happened in 1976 by a request made 204 00:11:25,948 --> 00:11:32,738 from made by the president French 205 00:11:29,798 --> 00:11:34,720 president Alana Scott desta to his 206 00:11:32,739 --> 00:11:38,170 minister of defense whose name I don't 207 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:42,040 remember right now and it was worldwide 208 00:11:38,169 --> 00:11:45,458 spread the idea that France started as 209 00:11:42,039 --> 00:11:48,998 the officially the first country to come 210 00:11:45,458 --> 00:11:51,609 forward about UFOs admitting that UFOs 211 00:11:48,999 --> 00:11:52,178 do exist a new folks are not from this 212 00:11:51,610 --> 00:11:58,058 country 213 00:11:52,178 --> 00:12:02,259 however in Brazil in 1954 12 or actually 214 00:11:58,058 --> 00:12:05,379 22 years before France at the Brazilian 215 00:12:02,259 --> 00:12:07,798 superior school of war we had the first 216 00:12:05,379 --> 00:12:10,178 official survey about UFOs and the 217 00:12:07,798 --> 00:12:13,298 conclusions is what you can read there 218 00:12:10,178 --> 00:12:15,970 the UFO phenomena is real its region is 219 00:12:13,298 --> 00:12:18,039 not the restaurant requires maximum 220 00:12:15,970 --> 00:12:19,990 attention and will be seriously 221 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:24,969 investigated by the Brazilian 222 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:30,730 authorities now it was issued back is 60 223 00:12:24,970 --> 00:12:34,720 years ago 61 actually a very important 224 00:12:30,730 --> 00:12:40,019 step in our trajectory the Brazilian 225 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:46,298 trajectory related to the UFO phenomena 226 00:12:40,019 --> 00:12:50,198 but there is more 15 years after that in 227 00:12:46,298 --> 00:12:52,899 March 1969 at the 4th regional air 228 00:12:50,198 --> 00:12:55,868 command in the city of Sao Paulo which 229 00:12:52,899 --> 00:13:00,909 is one of the largest in the world it 230 00:12:55,869 --> 00:13:03,999 was built it was created a body to 231 00:13:00,909 --> 00:13:05,980 officially investigate UFOs called the 232 00:13:03,999 --> 00:13:09,730 unidentified aerial objects 233 00:13:05,980 --> 00:13:15,399 investigative or investigation system co 234 00:13:09,730 --> 00:13:19,629 n now it has a big structure they had 235 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:22,328 UFO researchers military and civilian 236 00:13:19,629 --> 00:13:26,230 spread almost all over the county 237 00:13:22,328 --> 00:13:28,169 3.now they have investigated from UFO 238 00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:33,449 land is in contact with their young 239 00:13:28,169 --> 00:13:36,308 occupants all Bayes in a great 240 00:13:33,448 --> 00:13:39,458 infrastructure they used that building 241 00:13:36,308 --> 00:13:45,389 that is from the Eric Ariel command in 242 00:13:39,458 --> 00:13:48,698 some Paulo and they have a numerous 243 00:13:45,389 --> 00:13:54,058 numerous investigators towards the 244 00:13:48,698 --> 00:13:57,789 country it was not secret but discreet 245 00:13:54,058 --> 00:14:01,208 most of Brazilian UFO activities hasn't 246 00:13:57,789 --> 00:14:03,849 been to secret as in the United States 247 00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:06,849 for instance but they were very discreet 248 00:14:03,850 --> 00:14:09,399 so if you ask the government about it it 249 00:14:06,850 --> 00:14:12,009 will say yes it happened it's not a 250 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:15,369 secret but it will not advertise that it 251 00:14:12,009 --> 00:14:18,669 happened you know the difference so now 252 00:14:15,369 --> 00:14:25,059 they investigated and issued reports and 253 00:14:18,669 --> 00:14:26,860 bulletins since 1969 to 1972 dozens of 254 00:14:25,058 --> 00:14:29,769 UFO sightings and landings were 255 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:33,999 investigated these are only a few pages 256 00:14:29,769 --> 00:14:37,259 that you can see of the documents look 257 00:14:33,999 --> 00:14:41,290 at this all sorts of UFOs investigated 258 00:14:37,259 --> 00:14:42,759 tables with the tales of when UFOs were 259 00:14:41,289 --> 00:14:45,969 seen by whom 260 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:48,509 what kind of of people saw them the 261 00:14:45,970 --> 00:14:52,418 instruction level they had professions 262 00:14:48,509 --> 00:14:55,480 during daytime nighttime if the UFOs 263 00:14:52,418 --> 00:14:59,278 provoked and physical effect everything 264 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:03,239 they did just everything by the book a 265 00:14:59,278 --> 00:15:06,879 military book to investigate UFOs now 266 00:15:03,239 --> 00:15:10,509 they also dealt with UFO landed these 267 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:13,418 are all descriptions of UFOs typin and 268 00:15:10,509 --> 00:15:16,688 produced by military in a military style 269 00:15:13,418 --> 00:15:19,389 now if you are familiar with the UFO 270 00:15:16,688 --> 00:15:22,418 investigation the UFO research that so 271 00:15:19,389 --> 00:15:24,639 many of us do this is precisely what we 272 00:15:22,418 --> 00:15:28,448 do when we go to the field to talk to 273 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:29,709 the witnesses but these guys doing these 274 00:15:28,448 --> 00:15:33,008 are not civilians 275 00:15:29,708 --> 00:15:36,069 these guys were military conducting the 276 00:15:33,009 --> 00:15:39,789 same type of UFO investigations the 277 00:15:36,070 --> 00:15:44,640 we did for so long look at this some 278 00:15:39,789 --> 00:15:50,889 other pages and they have investigated 279 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:55,419 even UFOs with occupants like you see 280 00:15:50,889 --> 00:15:58,000 here these again this kind of evidence 281 00:15:55,419 --> 00:16:00,370 doesn't come from Brazilian civilian UFO 282 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,809 researchers but from Brazilian military 283 00:16:00,370 --> 00:16:06,190 and right now this is all Declassified 284 00:16:03,809 --> 00:16:09,659 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 285 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:13,030 pages of that kind of documentation 286 00:16:09,659 --> 00:16:14,889 which you can also find in our website 287 00:16:13,029 --> 00:16:17,259 of course all the documents are in 288 00:16:14,889 --> 00:16:20,559 Portuguese but later on I'll give you 289 00:16:17,259 --> 00:16:23,259 the the website address so you can go 290 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:27,759 there and download it and see what we 291 00:16:23,259 --> 00:16:30,850 did also the same military at the co n 292 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:33,939 who investigated UFOs they would make 293 00:16:30,850 --> 00:16:36,820 drawings based on the descriptions given 294 00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:39,850 by the witnesses of the UFOs the day 295 00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:44,980 start and here are some of these 296 00:16:39,850 --> 00:16:48,040 drawings like this very unique type of 297 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:51,070 UFOs lights all over this was 298 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:59,259 investigated by the military such as 299 00:16:51,070 --> 00:17:03,490 this such as this again UFOs landed such 300 00:16:59,259 --> 00:17:09,390 as this and it all has been Declassified 301 00:17:03,490 --> 00:17:14,039 and showing you all this so you can know 302 00:17:09,390 --> 00:17:19,000 how Brazilian has been involved with 303 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:21,670 UFOs since a long time ago and we the 304 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,789 UFO researchers in Brazil at least those 305 00:17:21,670 --> 00:17:29,440 with our let's say veterans or dinosaurs 306 00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:32,319 like myself I started like 3540 years 307 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,000 ago to investigate it and the other 308 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:37,089 members of the Brazilian Committee of 309 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,250 UFO researchers are also people who have 310 00:17:37,089 --> 00:17:43,419 been in dispute for quite some time so 311 00:17:39,250 --> 00:17:45,220 we have seen a lot we have seen many 312 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:48,910 things going on in the country about it 313 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:49,870 and of course when we decided to make 314 00:17:48,910 --> 00:17:56,220 the campaign you 315 00:17:49,869 --> 00:18:01,419 folks freedom of information now we went 316 00:17:56,220 --> 00:18:04,600 naive to tell our government hey guys we 317 00:18:01,420 --> 00:18:07,330 want you to give us all up on your files 318 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:12,549 and give us we are the citizens with a 319 00:18:07,329 --> 00:18:16,990 man not that kind of BS of course so we 320 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:20,470 designed an a strategy that couldn't 321 00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:23,920 fail actually I'm proud that I designed 322 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:28,750 that strategy and it's pretty simple 323 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:32,558 I said no asking for everything let's 324 00:18:28,750 --> 00:18:36,308 ask for just about the few things and we 325 00:18:32,558 --> 00:18:40,299 selected three cases fredrik three cases 326 00:18:36,308 --> 00:18:45,009 that happened in the 70s in the 80s and 327 00:18:40,299 --> 00:18:47,349 in the 90s only three out of thousands 328 00:18:45,009 --> 00:18:49,859 of cases but these three cases had 329 00:18:47,349 --> 00:18:54,000 something in common 330 00:18:49,859 --> 00:18:57,009 we had documentation that leaked 331 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,890 previously to the classification that 332 00:18:57,009 --> 00:19:04,569 proved that the Brazilian government was 333 00:18:59,890 --> 00:19:06,700 involved in them it means that if we ask 334 00:19:04,569 --> 00:19:09,099 something about one of these case in the 335 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:12,730 government says well we don't know 336 00:19:09,099 --> 00:19:15,490 anything about it we would say yes sir 337 00:19:12,730 --> 00:19:19,240 you do know here is the paper the 338 00:19:15,490 --> 00:19:22,690 document the leaked while ago that 339 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,609 regard here's the witness testimony a 340 00:19:22,690 --> 00:19:26,558 military who took part in these 341 00:19:24,609 --> 00:19:28,439 operations and these and that so the 342 00:19:26,558 --> 00:19:31,928 government simply can't the night or 343 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:34,570 couldn't deny the three cases that we 344 00:19:31,929 --> 00:19:37,900 presented and I'll go through the three 345 00:19:34,569 --> 00:19:41,879 of them very fastly because we don't 346 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:45,280 have much time and you will know what 347 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:49,630 kind of cases were talking about how 348 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:53,500 tough how compelling cases desire the 349 00:19:49,630 --> 00:19:56,830 first one was the operation saucer which 350 00:19:53,500 --> 00:20:00,309 took place in the Amazon from September 351 00:19:56,829 --> 00:20:03,639 through December 1977 and the second one 352 00:20:00,309 --> 00:20:06,879 what we call the official 353 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:10,210 a UFO night that happened in May 19 1986 354 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:13,570 in the third case of course lots of 355 00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:16,809 people here in decay have been asking me 356 00:20:13,569 --> 00:20:19,000 about the Virginia case and yes we 357 00:20:16,809 --> 00:20:22,240 included word the Virginia case so these 358 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:25,079 three cases are the basics of our 359 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,690 campaign ufos Freedom of Information now 360 00:20:25,079 --> 00:20:31,359 because the government wouldn't dare to 361 00:20:28,690 --> 00:20:33,519 deny that they have information about it 362 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:36,250 because we know they have now let's go 363 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:39,970 through one each one of these cases as 364 00:20:36,250 --> 00:20:42,369 fast as possible but yet so you can 365 00:20:39,970 --> 00:20:46,289 understand what we're talking about now 366 00:20:42,369 --> 00:20:50,199 the operation saucer was a military 367 00:20:46,289 --> 00:20:54,129 mission that took place in the island of 368 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:57,400 qualities by the Amazon River from 369 00:20:54,130 --> 00:21:00,580 September to December 1977 and why it 370 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:06,540 happened it happened because in the 371 00:21:00,579 --> 00:21:11,230 years of 1975 increasingly in 1976 and 372 00:21:06,539 --> 00:21:17,409 then and the first semester of 1977 we 373 00:21:11,230 --> 00:21:22,420 had a continuous and very hard UFO wave 374 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:26,200 I mean lot of UFO sightings concentrated 375 00:21:22,420 --> 00:21:29,230 in that island and surrounding areas in 376 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:31,779 the state of Para right in the middle of 377 00:21:29,230 --> 00:21:33,640 the jungle in the Amazon but yet not an 378 00:21:31,779 --> 00:21:37,299 unreachable place because you can go 379 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:40,660 there kind of easy by car you can go 380 00:21:37,299 --> 00:21:43,079 there by boat you can go there by bus so 381 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:48,730 it's something that can be investigated 382 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:52,149 now but coming back speaking again about 383 00:21:48,730 --> 00:21:56,160 those cases what was happening that 384 00:21:52,150 --> 00:22:02,470 start in 1975 and increase it in 1977 385 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:06,490 was something very unique UFOs would be 386 00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:10,120 seen during daylight or night light 387 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:14,650 nighttime and would attack people they 388 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:21,679 will have this format like 389 00:22:14,650 --> 00:22:25,509 Tuborg can sorry for the analogy it 390 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:29,710 reminds me to have a tube or later I'm 391 00:22:25,509 --> 00:22:35,029 no offense to the calls burger drinker 392 00:22:29,710 --> 00:22:39,170 okay they have this dis format right 393 00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:43,119 they would be like this with two guys 394 00:22:39,170 --> 00:22:49,720 inside of it and what was unique about 395 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:53,299 them is that a beam of light would come 396 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:58,130 from the bottom part of it and would hit 397 00:22:53,299 --> 00:23:00,849 people yes and would burn people now 398 00:22:58,130 --> 00:23:07,790 people who got hit by that being obliged 399 00:23:00,849 --> 00:23:11,509 they said that they lost blood because 400 00:23:07,789 --> 00:23:14,750 they felt anemic and extremely weak so 401 00:23:11,509 --> 00:23:16,609 one doctor decided to check it out the 402 00:23:14,750 --> 00:23:22,420 light assessing and she actually 403 00:23:16,609 --> 00:23:27,740 confirmed that out of the 400 patients 404 00:23:22,420 --> 00:23:31,400 that she attended that she saw all of 405 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:35,089 them had missing blood because of that 406 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:38,780 and even before that this phenomena this 407 00:23:35,089 --> 00:23:41,839 kind of object would be called the suck 408 00:23:38,779 --> 00:23:45,470 suck phenomenon or only the suck 409 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:47,899 phenomena because it people believed and 410 00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:51,730 it was true that it was sucking blood 411 00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:55,870 out of them now it you didn't have where 412 00:23:51,730 --> 00:23:58,549 to go even if you are inside your house 413 00:23:55,869 --> 00:24:02,209 because most of the houses in the island 414 00:23:58,549 --> 00:24:04,819 are shacks not made with bricks but made 415 00:24:02,210 --> 00:24:08,029 with wood or sometimes bamboos or 416 00:24:04,819 --> 00:24:11,569 whatever and people would be attacked 417 00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:15,829 even being inside their houses the bins 418 00:24:11,569 --> 00:24:18,259 of light will go forwards the walls the 419 00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:18,799 very weak walls and hit people inside of 420 00:24:18,259 --> 00:24:21,289 it 421 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:25,069 I have gone to the island of colitis 422 00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:27,899 quite a lot and I have been speaking 423 00:24:25,069 --> 00:24:30,899 with the witnesses that back 424 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:35,730 the seventies we're attacked and they 425 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:40,860 say well mr. AJ it's stuff I never 426 00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:45,230 regained my vitality my energy again 427 00:24:40,859 --> 00:24:47,939 it's like it was taken from them forever 428 00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:51,269 they have been felt like that for 429 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:55,529 decades now it became something very 430 00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:58,740 serious because hundreds of people were 431 00:24:55,529 --> 00:25:02,460 observing UFOs and it's estimated at 432 00:24:58,740 --> 00:25:08,329 least 1,000 people were attacked and not 433 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:08,329 only people but also horses cows dogs 434 00:25:08,539 --> 00:25:16,349 cheeps goats whatever so he except for 435 00:25:13,230 --> 00:25:19,759 the that the animals would die and out 436 00:25:16,349 --> 00:25:24,329 of the 400 cases that that daughter 437 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:26,789 attended four people died four people 438 00:25:24,329 --> 00:25:29,159 died they would show to her office 439 00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:31,740 clinic a very small clinic 440 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,529 it's all very poor they're very low 441 00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:37,859 conditions as you can imagine in the mid 442 00:25:34,529 --> 00:25:39,960 of nowhere in Brazil and they would have 443 00:25:37,859 --> 00:25:43,889 the wounds the wounds will be from 444 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:50,039 generally and from the upper arms and up 445 00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:52,740 the shoulders the torques and in 75% of 446 00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:58,879 the cases it were women who were 447 00:25:52,740 --> 00:26:03,690 attacked only 25% men it became in 1975 448 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:06,930 but then 6 in 1976 is got worst and in 449 00:26:03,690 --> 00:26:11,519 1st September 1977 he was very bad so 450 00:26:06,930 --> 00:26:13,950 the community started to fling escaping 451 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:16,200 from the island out of 10,000 people 452 00:26:13,950 --> 00:26:19,740 that lived in coladas Island which is a 453 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,350 pretty big island in the Amazon 9,000 454 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:25,019 went away and the 1,000 that remained 455 00:26:22,349 --> 00:26:27,029 they couldn't leave their houses because 456 00:26:25,019 --> 00:26:30,559 the boss of light would attack them so 457 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:34,259 they couldn't fish which is their basic 458 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:35,309 primary work they couldn't plant they 459 00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:38,789 could do nothing 460 00:26:35,309 --> 00:26:41,730 the food was missing they couldn't do 461 00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:45,359 nothing then they decided to go to the 462 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:46,470 government of the state of Para in when 463 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,699 they went to the government the 464 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:49,230 government thought well this is 465 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:50,730 something that come from the sky so 466 00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:54,450 let's talk to the Brazilian Air Force 467 00:26:50,730 --> 00:26:57,829 guys and he talked to the commander of 468 00:26:54,450 --> 00:27:00,840 an airfield that is based in Belen like 469 00:26:57,829 --> 00:27:04,980 150 kilometers from the island and it 470 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:08,250 was decided that an operation should 471 00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:12,240 take place involving from two to three 472 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:18,559 thousand military man all headed by this 473 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:23,240 guy who's Cornell with NGO London and 474 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:26,609 the operation is starting September 1977 475 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:29,640 during that operation over two thousand 476 00:27:26,609 --> 00:27:33,599 pages of documents were produced by the 477 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:38,250 military with the reports of the 478 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:42,839 testimonies given by people over 500 479 00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:47,940 black-and-white photos were taken and 16 480 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:51,319 hours of footage was produced not video 481 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:56,309 only 8 millimeters and 16 millimeters 482 00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:58,589 video all headed by this man this 483 00:27:56,309 --> 00:28:03,539 military went to the island and they 484 00:27:58,589 --> 00:28:05,579 camped at once Island Beach you might 485 00:28:03,539 --> 00:28:07,889 die and then move to another one then to 486 00:28:05,579 --> 00:28:10,409 another one during the day they would 487 00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:12,450 talk to the victims and witnesses and 488 00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:14,940 during the night he'll do sky watches 489 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:19,230 with portable Raiders and everything in 490 00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:22,230 their primary goal was try to register 491 00:28:19,230 --> 00:28:27,599 the phenomena as thoroughly as possible 492 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:31,940 and then if not dangerous if possible 493 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:37,469 try to engage in a contact with aliens 494 00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:40,230 which they did now this guy 20 years 495 00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:43,110 after the operation saucer happening 496 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:46,319 with NGO London he decided to open his 497 00:28:43,109 --> 00:28:50,939 heart up to that moment he has never 498 00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:55,159 given any interview to anybody but one 499 00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:57,350 particular day he called me and said aaj 500 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,769 I gotta tell you that I admire what 501 00:28:57,349 --> 00:29:03,169 you're doing and you have tried to find 502 00:29:00,769 --> 00:29:05,809 me before it make me talk but I couldn't 503 00:29:03,170 --> 00:29:08,990 I was I wasn't in relationship with with 504 00:29:05,809 --> 00:29:10,759 air force so now I am retired and if you 505 00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:13,099 can come to my house I will tell you 506 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:16,879 everything about operation saucer which 507 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:19,609 I did and when I met this man I was 508 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:24,380 impressed with his fresh memory of all 509 00:29:19,609 --> 00:29:26,269 the facts he was a a believer of of UFOs 510 00:29:24,380 --> 00:29:29,060 since the beginning of the operation 511 00:29:26,269 --> 00:29:31,819 saucer but he was not convinced that 512 00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:34,879 what was going on in that part of Brazil 513 00:29:31,819 --> 00:29:36,950 had anything to do at all with operation 514 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,900 saucer even though he went there he 515 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:41,360 commanded the operation saucer that 516 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:44,720 produced this kind of documents look at 517 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:47,479 this 2,000 pages of impressive reports 518 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:51,710 made in a military format these are maps 519 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:54,410 showing the path of the UFOs according 520 00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:57,470 to the rated registry and out of the 521 00:29:54,410 --> 00:30:01,460 2,000 pages that were produced we have 522 00:29:57,470 --> 00:30:04,390 about 400 released you can have them all 523 00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:06,890 if you want because this is for everyone 524 00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:10,400 everyone who seeks the truth about the 525 00:30:06,890 --> 00:30:13,580 UFOs now this is very impressive because 526 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:16,910 some pages of the documentation showed 527 00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:19,460 the UFOs that were seen now this is the 528 00:30:16,910 --> 00:30:21,380 sex act phenomena here you have one 529 00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:24,680 drawing and another drawing all made by 530 00:30:21,380 --> 00:30:27,770 militaries right you can see very clear 531 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:30,170 but here are the two guys and here the 532 00:30:27,769 --> 00:30:34,369 tube from where the beam of life would 533 00:30:30,170 --> 00:30:37,340 go and hit the people and here is a 534 00:30:34,369 --> 00:30:40,399 mothership like UFOs you see this in the 535 00:30:37,339 --> 00:30:42,109 pictures that I'll show just a second in 536 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,870 just a second okay 537 00:30:42,109 --> 00:30:48,009 here is another what they describe the 538 00:30:44,869 --> 00:30:51,529 military described as a mothership like 539 00:30:48,009 --> 00:30:54,470 be two kind of beautiful and and this is 540 00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:57,529 some more technical design a more 541 00:30:54,470 --> 00:31:00,440 technical drawing of the UFO that would 542 00:30:57,529 --> 00:31:05,170 attack people what you can see here it's 543 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:08,759 lighting make a turn now wait a minute 544 00:31:05,170 --> 00:31:13,200 have you ever seen light 545 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:17,839 make a turn no it doesn't go like this 546 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,840 and make a turn it goes straight ahead 547 00:31:18,619 --> 00:31:26,369 so we're talking about a very different 548 00:31:22,109 --> 00:31:29,399 type of technology indeed people would 549 00:31:26,369 --> 00:31:36,779 describe that the light would come from 550 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:39,269 the UFO and change change its path we're 551 00:31:36,779 --> 00:31:40,589 dealing with the technology we could 552 00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:43,650 possibly imagine 553 00:31:40,589 --> 00:31:44,599 perhaps in 100 years we'll make light to 554 00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:49,800 make turns 555 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:53,299 but not now I'm afraid now here are some 556 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:58,109 of some more cases and it all 557 00:31:53,299 --> 00:32:00,629 Declassified thanks to the campaign UFOs 558 00:31:58,109 --> 00:32:03,149 freedom of information now that were 559 00:32:00,630 --> 00:32:07,890 conducted by the Brazilian UFO 560 00:32:03,150 --> 00:32:11,480 researchers committee it worked and the 561 00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:16,500 government released a lot of stuff now 562 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:18,900 some of the photos look here over 500 563 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:25,529 peoples were obtained of which we have 564 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:27,830 less but less than 200 look at this now 565 00:32:25,529 --> 00:32:31,680 I told you that one of the drawings 566 00:32:27,829 --> 00:32:34,649 reflected a mothership this is what we 567 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:37,170 don't yell and has said that it was the 568 00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:41,120 mothership but unfortunately their 569 00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:44,700 quality is not very good because they 570 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:49,679 even though they had best cameras 571 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:54,269 available the objects weren't easy to to 572 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:58,049 register it was until that US military 573 00:32:54,269 --> 00:33:01,139 came and gave them special cameras and 574 00:32:58,049 --> 00:33:07,319 special films that they started to make 575 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:10,160 better quality photos of the UFOs this 576 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:14,139 is very compelling and it's also 577 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:18,210 declassified you can have it all 578 00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:22,990 but there is a politics or a polemic a 579 00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:25,750 debate about the ending of operation 580 00:33:22,990 --> 00:33:29,470 saucer some people say that operation 581 00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:34,960 saucer was closed and officially it is 582 00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:37,860 closed but is it actually now I don't 583 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,960 believe so let me tell you something I 584 00:33:37,859 --> 00:33:43,269 told you that the one of the main goals 585 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:49,920 of the operations also was to try to 586 00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:52,509 engage if there is no risk with the 587 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,330 intelligence is beyond the phenomena 588 00:33:52,509 --> 00:33:58,210 because there was already and it is 589 00:33:55,329 --> 00:34:01,899 written in the papers a notion that 590 00:33:58,210 --> 00:34:06,220 there was an intelligence beyond the 591 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:09,840 phenomenon now if big ol the objective 592 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:12,490 the purpose was to meet it to contact it 593 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:16,350 when it happened they shut down 594 00:34:12,489 --> 00:34:19,629 operation saucer that can just be 595 00:34:16,349 --> 00:34:24,940 reasonable because I tell you that 596 00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:28,950 because we're a Yolanda himself in even 597 00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:34,559 with one of his men he had a direct 598 00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:39,210 close contact eye-to-eye with an alien 599 00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:42,130 occupants of one of the big spaceships 600 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:46,240 these are drawings that he made to me 601 00:34:42,130 --> 00:34:51,039 during our interview and he described 602 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:55,689 this machine which was a hundred meters 603 00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:59,259 high it is here again when they were in 604 00:34:55,690 --> 00:35:02,400 the Guara River this is the river here 605 00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:08,020 is how he draw his this is his signature 606 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:12,070 he's him in a small aluminum boat with a 607 00:35:08,019 --> 00:35:17,110 rear motor with one of his man this boat 608 00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:19,690 did this rivers about 70 meters wide and 609 00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:22,720 they were coming to the other side of 610 00:35:19,690 --> 00:35:27,369 the island where the camping was located 611 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,969 but just before just before they started 612 00:35:27,369 --> 00:35:31,900 to go 613 00:35:27,969 --> 00:35:35,769 they for their biggest surprise saw this 614 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:39,608 Big Spaceship cylinder like object a 615 00:35:35,769 --> 00:35:43,630 hundred meters wide a hundred meters in 616 00:35:39,608 --> 00:35:47,460 length almost touching ground on the 617 00:35:43,630 --> 00:35:51,670 other bank of the river over there and 618 00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:54,608 out of a small door in the upper part of 619 00:35:51,670 --> 00:36:01,329 it an alien with that characteristics 620 00:35:54,608 --> 00:36:02,799 just like a human person with a casket 621 00:36:01,329 --> 00:36:07,358 over his head 622 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:11,890 white and black Vizard and a white 623 00:36:07,358 --> 00:36:17,319 uniform this guy this alien dye came out 624 00:36:11,889 --> 00:36:21,069 of the the door in the top of this 100 625 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:24,220 meters object and floated floated 626 00:36:21,070 --> 00:36:27,609 floated floated floated floated floated 627 00:36:24,219 --> 00:36:31,868 in state right here right in front of 628 00:36:27,608 --> 00:36:37,420 we're in Jalandhar but no dialogue half 629 00:36:31,869 --> 00:36:41,470 net not even telepathically only I to I 630 00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:45,760 staring for a few seconds then da knee 631 00:36:41,469 --> 00:36:50,500 went back to the spaceship and it went 632 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:54,730 away now as part of his duties we're in 633 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:57,400 jail and we have to go regularly to his 634 00:36:54,730 --> 00:37:00,550 commander in the city of the lane to 635 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,460 report the progress of the operation 636 00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:07,440 saucer and when that close encounter 637 00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:11,260 happened he was very excited so he went 638 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:15,550 the other day to talk to his commander 639 00:37:11,260 --> 00:37:19,030 Brigadier Protoss Oliveira who is a very 640 00:37:15,550 --> 00:37:21,190 smart guy but when he listed at - we 641 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:25,119 don't you learned his report that they 642 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:29,909 finally had a contact with an alien he 643 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:33,700 was astounded and he decided after 644 00:37:29,909 --> 00:37:37,210 couple days of meditation in the subject 645 00:37:33,699 --> 00:37:39,368 to shut down operation saucer why he 646 00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:41,650 took so long because he had the kinds of 647 00:37:39,369 --> 00:37:43,559 people in Brasilia the federal 648 00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:46,000 after because he had to cancel the 649 00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:49,778 military from the United States 650 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,150 remember in 1977 we were in a Victor 651 00:37:49,778 --> 00:37:54,789 ship detector ship in Brazil as well 652 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:58,750 most counters in South America and it 653 00:37:54,789 --> 00:38:02,230 was all being run by US military in the 654 00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:05,798 US intelligence and of course I had this 655 00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:08,980 confirmation of course it was the 656 00:38:05,798 --> 00:38:12,608 Brazilian military along all together 657 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:17,519 with US military who took this decision 658 00:38:12,608 --> 00:38:21,519 and informally way - Yolanda shut down 659 00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:23,829 operation saucer get all the stuff bring 660 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:27,940 your men back to city and Tony speak 661 00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:32,349 about it 21 and he said but commander we 662 00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:35,650 made a contact it may go on say Coronel 663 00:38:32,349 --> 00:38:39,130 don't talk about this to me anymore 664 00:38:35,650 --> 00:38:43,349 forget it and leave your life and the 665 00:38:39,130 --> 00:38:48,130 operation saucer was officially ended 666 00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:52,000 but actually it continued much more 667 00:38:48,130 --> 00:38:55,390 secretive and under military US military 668 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,880 control this caused we're Energy Holanda 669 00:38:55,389 --> 00:39:01,858 to be very unhappy for the rest of his 670 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:04,720 life and maybe this is a good robbery 671 00:39:01,858 --> 00:39:06,358 collaborative thing that made him took 672 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:10,298 his own life 673 00:39:06,358 --> 00:39:14,528 just after he gave me that interview the 674 00:39:10,298 --> 00:39:17,769 interview he gave me was in 1997 if you 675 00:39:14,528 --> 00:39:19,989 watch me in a TV program speaking about 676 00:39:17,769 --> 00:39:22,750 I was labeled at last 677 00:39:19,989 --> 00:39:26,019 age age of art hunter of UFO documents 678 00:39:22,750 --> 00:39:28,750 in Brazil that kind of BS and he watched 679 00:39:26,019 --> 00:39:32,108 that and I was speaking about this all 680 00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:34,420 and he wanted me to interview him which 681 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:37,358 I did with my co-editor mark Antonio PG 682 00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:41,500 and a few months later he just killed 683 00:39:37,358 --> 00:39:43,719 himself some people say he was killed he 684 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:47,260 was suicided by the government and 685 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:50,078 that's not the case he actually suicidal 686 00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:53,319 himself because there was no point to 687 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:55,330 commit to be killed after he had 688 00:39:53,318 --> 00:39:58,000 revealed everything right 689 00:39:55,329 --> 00:40:00,730 other the the military should kill me as 690 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,510 well and should kill the makutano peachy 691 00:40:00,730 --> 00:40:07,119 because it's to whom would I Jolanda 692 00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:10,240 told the whole story but it's not the 693 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:14,519 case he actually suicide now let's go to 694 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:17,589 the second case because one day when 695 00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:20,860 piya and predict invited me for more to 696 00:40:17,590 --> 00:40:23,890 blogs and half of it in Denmark I will 697 00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:26,039 have the all operation saucer fully 698 00:40:23,889 --> 00:40:28,359 described in a two or three hours in 699 00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:32,730 lecture perhaps Virginia case that I 700 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,940 speak in a few moments right now deal 701 00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:36,039 okay 702 00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:40,829 now let's talk about the second case 703 00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:43,779 very briefly which we call the Brazilian 704 00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:46,739 official Brazilian UFO night it occurred 705 00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:53,070 and it's called official night because 706 00:40:46,739 --> 00:40:53,069 at that particular night on May 19 1986 707 00:40:53,280 --> 00:41:04,840 21 not one not two not three but 21 it's 708 00:41:00,130 --> 00:41:07,480 very cool UFOs were seen over the major 709 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:11,289 cities in Brazil Rio de Janeiro sample 710 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:14,889 and they jammed the air traffic control 711 00:41:11,289 --> 00:41:18,099 radars so it forced the military to send 712 00:41:14,889 --> 00:41:22,529 seven not one not two not three but 713 00:41:18,099 --> 00:41:26,019 seven jet fighters to identify the 714 00:41:22,530 --> 00:41:29,260 intruders three were mirages French 715 00:41:26,019 --> 00:41:37,320 producted jet fighters in four Americans 716 00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:39,580 for 5 e f is and several of four T's 717 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,950 involved in the release of the 718 00:41:39,579 --> 00:41:45,489 information even though we were in the 719 00:41:41,949 --> 00:41:48,699 stew under the actor ship but at its 720 00:41:45,489 --> 00:41:49,389 very end the military was quite open 721 00:41:48,699 --> 00:41:52,929 about it 722 00:41:49,389 --> 00:41:56,829 they made press conference and let all 723 00:41:52,929 --> 00:42:00,069 the all the pilots to describe it to to 724 00:41:56,829 --> 00:42:03,069 the audience and to the press so it 725 00:42:00,070 --> 00:42:07,600 became a big thing guys such as diseth 726 00:42:03,070 --> 00:42:08,960 Ortiz here he's he's a brigadier he's 727 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:11,719 another Brigadier 728 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,470 and I was a minister this guy was also a 729 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,669 minister 730 00:42:12,469 --> 00:42:19,129 all of them gave very detailed reports 731 00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:20,750 of what happened now this gentleman was 732 00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:22,430 the last one that I interviewed 733 00:42:20,750 --> 00:42:24,409 Brigadier Jacques Montero 734 00:42:22,429 --> 00:42:25,969 but all the time I have been 735 00:42:24,409 --> 00:42:28,039 interviewing militaries not only in 736 00:42:25,969 --> 00:42:31,338 Brazil but also I have been interviewing 737 00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:34,818 militaries in new wine in Argentina and 738 00:42:31,338 --> 00:42:37,699 Chile and Peru bah you name it because 739 00:42:34,818 --> 00:42:39,469 they all have things to say in right now 740 00:42:37,699 --> 00:42:41,719 the feelings that we have at least in 741 00:42:39,469 --> 00:42:45,019 South America is that the military who 742 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:47,179 know about UFO day when I talk it don't 743 00:42:45,019 --> 00:42:50,389 want to live with that they they think 744 00:42:47,179 --> 00:42:54,679 that they have a sense of citizenship 745 00:42:50,389 --> 00:42:56,838 that the moves then to express to tell 746 00:42:54,679 --> 00:43:00,828 people what they saw but some of them 747 00:42:56,838 --> 00:43:05,299 simply can't see everything and also it 748 00:43:00,829 --> 00:43:07,190 was told to me that why the the military 749 00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:10,160 even though when they want to talk about 750 00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:14,179 it they are discreet because it's the 751 00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:17,808 military mentality that something they 752 00:43:14,179 --> 00:43:20,298 don't control they don't speak about and 753 00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:24,829 of course they don't control your force 754 00:43:20,298 --> 00:43:28,280 if they say yes UFOs are real the next 755 00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:30,680 question is going to be how good since 756 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:34,250 when you know that and they we have to 757 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:36,649 say well at least for 50 years and the 758 00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:39,710 other question would be and why do you 759 00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:42,500 think you could hide that from society 760 00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:44,329 for 50 years so it's kind of 761 00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:46,010 embarrassing questions that will come 762 00:43:44,329 --> 00:43:48,619 over and they don't have answers for 763 00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:53,500 that or that maybe the second question 764 00:43:48,619 --> 00:43:56,619 will be alright UFOs exist what are them 765 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:59,088 where they come from and who has 766 00:43:56,619 --> 00:44:00,650 constructed and it's piloting them and 767 00:43:59,088 --> 00:44:01,219 they don't have replies to those 768 00:44:00,650 --> 00:44:06,410 questions 769 00:44:01,219 --> 00:44:10,519 neither do us but anyway what was this 770 00:44:06,409 --> 00:44:16,068 official night of UFOs a big rat and 771 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:19,179 mouse shades of 21 UFOs during 2 to 3 772 00:44:16,068 --> 00:44:21,650 hours over the major cities of Brazil 773 00:44:19,179 --> 00:44:27,869 big big thing 774 00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:29,760 but at that point in March a May 19th or 775 00:44:27,869 --> 00:44:32,819 May 20 or May 21st 776 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,850 just the following days of what happened 777 00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:38,519 our Ministry of Brazilian Air Force the 778 00:44:35,849 --> 00:44:42,989 Minister of iron Alex actually he said 779 00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:45,269 he will issue a report within 30 days 780 00:44:42,989 --> 00:44:48,239 letting the society to know what 781 00:44:45,269 --> 00:44:51,780 happened and this report that never 782 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:55,229 showed up not in 30 days nor decease is 783 00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:58,560 a nodding 9th days 1910 date never never 784 00:44:55,230 --> 00:45:01,289 happened however when we got the 785 00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:03,059 disclosure in Brazil made by the 786 00:45:01,289 --> 00:45:05,429 Brazilian Committee of UFO researchers 787 00:45:03,059 --> 00:45:09,389 the campaign UFO Freedom of Information 788 00:45:05,429 --> 00:45:14,599 out when we got the package of papers 789 00:45:09,389 --> 00:45:19,769 from the 80s there it was the document 790 00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:22,769 that among others say everything about 791 00:45:19,769 --> 00:45:26,730 what happened and this document is an 792 00:45:22,769 --> 00:45:29,610 accurate report produced from them by 793 00:45:26,730 --> 00:45:31,409 the it's from the Air Force Ministry and 794 00:45:29,610 --> 00:45:35,400 signed by the Brigadier Jose Echols 795 00:45:31,409 --> 00:45:38,579 Peter Kabukicho Booker T now a part of 796 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,680 it that is underlined here which is 797 00:45:38,579 --> 00:45:44,130 actually one of the conclusions right 798 00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:47,299 here says the conclusion of this command 799 00:45:44,130 --> 00:45:49,829 is that the phenomenon is solid and 800 00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:52,110 reflects certain form of intelligent 801 00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:54,299 capable following and preserving its 802 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:58,590 distance from the jet as well as flight 803 00:45:54,300 --> 00:46:01,950 information yes folks this was issued by 804 00:45:58,590 --> 00:46:04,410 the Brazilian Air Force one General to 805 00:46:01,949 --> 00:46:10,529 another general for whole knowledge of 806 00:46:04,409 --> 00:46:13,469 the top-ranking militaries in Brazil and 807 00:46:10,530 --> 00:46:16,860 it is this classified another piece of 808 00:46:13,469 --> 00:46:21,889 information that's very valuable to the 809 00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:25,170 world UFO community can you imagine a 810 00:46:21,889 --> 00:46:28,219 solid phenomena that reflects certain 811 00:46:25,170 --> 00:46:28,220 type of intelligence 812 00:46:29,809 --> 00:46:39,048 21:21 spheres seen all over the 813 00:46:34,588 --> 00:46:42,960 major cities of Brazil we had them over 814 00:46:39,048 --> 00:46:45,869 Brasilia Rio San Paulo 815 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,900 Bojana etc and this has been 816 00:46:45,869 --> 00:46:52,289 Declassified alright 817 00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:55,380 now the third in a very important case 818 00:46:52,289 --> 00:46:59,778 let's go through it and that's hope that 819 00:46:55,380 --> 00:47:05,219 we can do it in 15 minutes perhaps less 820 00:46:59,778 --> 00:47:07,949 now ladies and gentlemen just very 821 00:47:05,219 --> 00:47:12,170 similar to what happened in 1947 in the 822 00:47:07,949 --> 00:47:15,268 United States when a UFO crash in Corona 823 00:47:12,170 --> 00:47:17,400 not in Roswell according to Stanton 824 00:47:15,268 --> 00:47:21,868 Friedman but in Corona but anyway the 825 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:25,229 Roswell case in July 2 1947 we have 826 00:47:21,869 --> 00:47:26,789 several other cases of UFO crashing in 827 00:47:25,228 --> 00:47:29,578 several parts of the world including 828 00:47:26,789 --> 00:47:32,309 united states including in Brazil I 829 00:47:29,579 --> 00:47:34,619 believe that there is one case here in 830 00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:36,950 Denmark as well now in Brazil we had 831 00:47:34,619 --> 00:47:41,088 several cases and one of them took place 832 00:47:36,949 --> 00:47:44,608 in the night from the 19th to 20th 833 00:47:41,088 --> 00:47:47,400 January 1996 and it's called the Castle 834 00:47:44,608 --> 00:47:50,190 Virginia or the Virginia case because of 835 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,499 the city where it happened it happened 836 00:47:50,190 --> 00:47:55,679 the city of Virginia the nearby it all 837 00:47:52,498 --> 00:47:58,318 started in the middle of that night is a 838 00:47:55,679 --> 00:48:03,118 Friday to a Saturday about 4:00 a.m. 839 00:47:58,318 --> 00:48:09,690 some witnesses see what seemed to be an 840 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:16,289 object falling down crashing it has some 841 00:48:09,690 --> 00:48:21,539 sparkles going off its rear end and just 842 00:48:16,289 --> 00:48:25,589 a few hours after that as several 843 00:48:21,539 --> 00:48:28,559 creatures start being seen nearby the 844 00:48:25,588 --> 00:48:32,338 city of Virginia where the crash took 845 00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:36,900 place is just a cup of miles or so from 846 00:48:32,338 --> 00:48:40,318 the Virginia and survivors from that 847 00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:44,099 crash I guess they saw the lights of the 848 00:48:40,318 --> 00:48:46,219 city and they walk towards it when it 849 00:48:44,099 --> 00:48:48,630 was early in the morning of that 850 00:48:46,219 --> 00:48:53,039 Saturday January 2099 851 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:56,490 six about 6:30 7:00 7:30 a.m. 852 00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:59,789 people start walking in that particular 853 00:48:56,489 --> 00:49:02,279 area going to work or whatever start 854 00:48:59,789 --> 00:49:06,630 seeing that creature between five and 855 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:10,620 seven creatures were reported and they 856 00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:15,329 thought they could be some sort of wide 857 00:49:10,619 --> 00:49:18,900 animals they dropped stones at creatures 858 00:49:15,329 --> 00:49:22,469 they were smelling bad it's like a 859 00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:25,920 maniac like they were rotting or 860 00:49:22,469 --> 00:49:28,109 something so at some point someone 861 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,690 called the fire department guys in the 862 00:49:28,110 --> 00:49:32,970 city of Virginia Virginia was a small 863 00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:35,869 town like a sixty to eighty thousand 864 00:49:32,969 --> 00:49:38,789 people at that time because in Brazil 865 00:49:35,869 --> 00:49:41,579 when you see a wild animal and you do 866 00:49:38,789 --> 00:49:44,130 see wild animals like Jack alligators 867 00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:47,219 coming into your pool snakes come into 868 00:49:44,130 --> 00:49:49,260 your garage or mad dogs or whatever you 869 00:49:47,219 --> 00:49:53,939 call the fire department guys to capture 870 00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:56,580 and they do it using nets produced up 871 00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:59,490 out of ropes and leather this is 872 00:49:56,579 --> 00:50:01,650 precisely what happened someone called 873 00:49:59,489 --> 00:50:04,769 the fire department guys and when they 874 00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:08,250 arrived almost three hours later they 875 00:50:04,769 --> 00:50:10,739 were called they arrived in a truck from 876 00:50:08,250 --> 00:50:16,019 the fire department and a second truck 877 00:50:10,739 --> 00:50:20,250 from the army a truck that left the city 878 00:50:16,019 --> 00:50:23,670 of tres chorus where the soccer player 879 00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:26,039 Pele was born three hearts frisco signs 880 00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:28,680 because in Virginia there was no 881 00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:32,309 military installation only pulled 882 00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:33,539 military police but not army and in that 883 00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:36,420 whole region 884 00:50:33,539 --> 00:50:40,409 there was no air force at all this is 885 00:50:36,420 --> 00:50:42,420 why the army was sent to take care of 886 00:50:40,409 --> 00:50:44,969 that and once there was no harm in 887 00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:47,329 Virginia it was the army installation in 888 00:50:44,969 --> 00:50:51,869 a nearby city of trespassers 889 00:50:47,329 --> 00:50:54,059 only 20 miles away that was taking care 890 00:50:51,869 --> 00:50:56,339 of this so when the fire department's 891 00:50:54,059 --> 00:51:00,840 from guys from the the city of Virginia 892 00:50:56,340 --> 00:51:02,519 arrived so did a truck from the army of 893 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,370 the city of trees chorus noise 894 00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:08,190 and they discussed it was decided it was 895 00:51:05,369 --> 00:51:10,319 the the military excuse me the fire 896 00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:12,809 department guys that should go into the 897 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,990 the brushes where the creatures were and 898 00:51:12,809 --> 00:51:18,599 capture as much as they could with this 899 00:51:15,989 --> 00:51:20,759 Nats which they actually did but they 900 00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:24,779 only capture one creature which was 901 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:28,590 taken up the gorge in front of 50 guys 902 00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:30,990 50 witnesses looking at that that 903 00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:33,480 creature was taken put inside a wooden 904 00:51:30,989 --> 00:51:38,399 box which was placed on top of the truck 905 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:41,369 and taken away from Virginia and of 906 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:44,340 course as only one was captured and the 907 00:51:41,369 --> 00:51:47,130 other ones where it's two at large all 908 00:51:44,340 --> 00:51:49,710 police forces in the south of the state 909 00:51:47,130 --> 00:51:54,990 of miniaturized which is a pretty big 910 00:51:49,710 --> 00:51:58,199 state we're all searching for the other 911 00:51:54,989 --> 00:52:00,179 creatures from five to seven were 912 00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:03,000 reported but at least two were captured 913 00:52:00,179 --> 00:52:07,199 one in that very morning and the other 914 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:10,829 one was captured at that same night now 915 00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:17,539 this is when we came across we come 916 00:52:10,829 --> 00:52:21,150 across a tragedy now this guy here is 917 00:52:17,539 --> 00:52:25,170 Marco Alicia desi he was a military 918 00:52:21,150 --> 00:52:27,240 officer military soldier of the military 919 00:52:25,170 --> 00:52:29,909 police yes we have made Terry police in 920 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:33,239 Brazil yet they are trying to extinct it 921 00:52:29,909 --> 00:52:37,379 but pressures against it it's too big 922 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:39,979 anyway he was on leave he was not even 923 00:52:37,380 --> 00:52:44,809 working at that Saturday he was at home 924 00:52:39,980 --> 00:52:48,090 with his wife who was pregnant of twins 925 00:52:44,809 --> 00:52:53,549 two girls which are now almost 20 years 926 00:52:48,090 --> 00:52:57,480 old he himself was a very healthy guy 23 927 00:52:53,550 --> 00:53:01,410 years old and he was sent as everybody 928 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:04,769 else police forces that were on leaf and 929 00:53:01,409 --> 00:53:08,000 the others that were working were sent 930 00:53:04,769 --> 00:53:12,650 to search for what to search for an 931 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:16,329 strange creature or strange creatures 932 00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:19,780 they were not given any information what 933 00:53:16,329 --> 00:53:22,150 however if there was any danger to come 934 00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:25,180 close to the creatures how do they look 935 00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:27,940 like how they would proceed to capture 936 00:53:25,179 --> 00:53:31,419 it there was joy they were all just told 937 00:53:27,940 --> 00:53:35,470 go and look for something unusual if you 938 00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:39,210 get it grab it and bring it this is what 939 00:53:35,469 --> 00:53:42,730 he did at that night of January 20 1995 940 00:53:39,210 --> 00:53:46,809 he was in this car from the military 941 00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:48,909 police who almost run over a second 942 00:53:46,809 --> 00:53:51,460 creature the second one that was 943 00:53:48,909 --> 00:53:55,119 captured although others remain at large 944 00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:57,730 he was he in the car was in the 945 00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,849 passenger seat the other military was 946 00:53:57,730 --> 00:54:03,340 driving and they almost run over the 947 00:54:00,849 --> 00:54:08,500 creature so he they stopped he went off 948 00:54:03,340 --> 00:54:13,000 the car and through the bush grabs the 949 00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:18,820 creature disgusting creature smelling 950 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:23,739 bad negged small choppy like this no 951 00:54:18,820 --> 00:54:26,530 clothes Brown in totally brown like 952 00:54:23,739 --> 00:54:30,789 there was a greasy oil spread all over 953 00:54:26,530 --> 00:54:32,680 its skin big red eyes protuberances that 954 00:54:30,789 --> 00:54:36,219 they'd started with like ridges from 955 00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:41,649 this part of the head to the end of the 956 00:54:36,219 --> 00:54:47,319 head three toes and three fingers to 957 00:54:41,650 --> 00:54:50,470 toes very primitive kind of guys but he 958 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:53,019 grabbed one of them got back to the car 959 00:54:50,469 --> 00:54:55,659 sits in the passenger seats and puts the 960 00:54:53,019 --> 00:55:01,570 creature on top of his lap and they go 961 00:54:55,659 --> 00:55:06,329 to the hospital now that military guy 23 962 00:55:01,570 --> 00:55:10,809 years old died three weeks after that 963 00:55:06,329 --> 00:55:14,980 three weeks like his immune system was 964 00:55:10,809 --> 00:55:19,179 just shut down he had an infection in 965 00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:21,820 his abdomen which was fought for and 966 00:55:19,179 --> 00:55:25,000 with medicines and and then he had an 967 00:55:21,820 --> 00:55:29,090 infection in his armpit and this is what 968 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:31,369 caused his death now doctors say 969 00:55:29,090 --> 00:55:35,740 they never saw something like that now 970 00:55:31,369 --> 00:55:39,980 we have diseases attacks from bacteria 971 00:55:35,739 --> 00:55:44,659 every day all day long but our immune 972 00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:48,050 system can resist and fight them and his 973 00:55:44,659 --> 00:55:51,649 immune system was shut down we don't 974 00:55:48,050 --> 00:55:54,320 know if there are other military who had 975 00:55:51,650 --> 00:55:56,450 suffered or died we don't know we don't 976 00:55:54,320 --> 00:56:00,440 know where the other creatures if there 977 00:55:56,449 --> 00:56:03,649 are any others actually went we just 978 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:06,170 know that that second creature captured 979 00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:09,200 by mark initially as it was taken to the 980 00:56:06,170 --> 00:56:11,389 main Central Hospital the city of 981 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:14,719 Virginia where it was seen by other 982 00:56:11,389 --> 00:56:17,569 doctors where it was seen by by nurses 983 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:20,209 by employees by visitors by other 984 00:56:17,570 --> 00:56:22,340 patients and it became obvious that the 985 00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:27,800 creature couldn't be kept there so it 986 00:56:22,340 --> 00:56:30,740 was taken to a smaller asked a kind of 987 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:35,680 outside town but it all took place we 988 00:56:30,739 --> 00:56:40,069 all have that on file we have leaks from 989 00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:44,349 many people we have over 200 firsthand 990 00:56:40,070 --> 00:56:46,970 witnesses that gave us reportable and 991 00:56:44,349 --> 00:56:50,119 unlike the Roswell case that happen 992 00:56:46,969 --> 00:56:52,939 United States this is a much well 993 00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:55,219 documented case and let me tell you why 994 00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:57,559 and I had to tell that in front of 995 00:56:55,219 --> 00:57:00,859 Stanton Friedman in home first this 996 00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:03,980 states he was not very happy but this is 997 00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:07,610 the fact see while the Roswell case 998 00:57:03,980 --> 00:57:11,809 happened in 1947 in was investigated by 999 00:57:07,610 --> 00:57:15,230 accident only 25 hours - excuse me 25 1000 00:57:11,809 --> 00:57:17,840 years later the Virginia case happened 1001 00:57:15,230 --> 00:57:21,460 in 1996 and what he started to be 1002 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:29,840 investigated only 24 hours later and 1003 00:57:21,460 --> 00:57:32,420 during the next weeks and months over 77 1004 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:35,750 oh you are for researchers got involved 1005 00:57:32,420 --> 00:57:38,090 in investigating the UFO case bear UFO 1006 00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:39,559 cases talking to witnesses talking to 1007 00:57:38,090 --> 00:57:41,329 military talking to everything 1008 00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,329 collecting that are here collecting data 1009 00:57:41,329 --> 00:57:45,659 there 1010 00:57:42,329 --> 00:57:47,819 even military will come to us and say I 1011 00:57:45,659 --> 00:57:51,359 can't live with this I need to talk 1012 00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:54,930 about you but please don't make my name 1013 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:57,720 known I want to stay anonymous alright 1014 00:57:54,929 --> 00:58:00,719 no problem as long as they give their as 1015 00:57:57,719 --> 00:58:04,250 they report and they gave us now the 1016 00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:07,919 Army is still denied the whole thing and 1017 00:58:04,250 --> 00:58:13,170 yet even though the army is to deny the 1018 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:19,289 whole thing we had managed with the help 1019 00:58:13,170 --> 00:58:23,730 of the press to make it closure makes 1020 00:58:19,289 --> 00:58:27,150 closed a very singular piece of material 1021 00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:30,809 which is a military police enquire that 1022 00:58:27,150 --> 00:58:32,490 was initiated to determind the 1023 00:58:30,809 --> 00:58:36,809 responsibility of leaking information 1024 00:58:32,489 --> 00:58:40,579 about the Virginia case yeah it was 1025 00:58:36,809 --> 00:58:46,880 released is it doesn't say a word about 1026 00:58:40,579 --> 00:58:52,529 aliens UFO crash nothing but it's a very 1027 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:56,369 thick and very serious document military 1028 00:58:52,530 --> 00:59:01,100 style now the classified to try to find 1029 00:58:56,369 --> 00:59:05,579 out who where the military deleted 1030 00:59:01,099 --> 00:59:08,029 information to the UFO researchers we 1031 00:59:05,579 --> 00:59:11,029 cannot review our sources of course 1032 00:59:08,030 --> 00:59:15,269 because they are some of the nice to 1033 00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:20,130 working but I think that some day this 1034 00:59:15,269 --> 00:59:21,840 whole thing of secrecy we went so we got 1035 00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:25,230 material from the Air Force as you saw 1036 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:28,530 but we got nothing from the army nothing 1037 00:59:25,230 --> 00:59:30,690 the army still says and it just did 1038 00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:33,450 two weeks ago again when someone asked 1039 00:59:30,690 --> 00:59:35,460 press asked no nothing happened 1040 00:59:33,449 --> 00:59:36,869 you're wrong we don't have anything to 1041 00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:41,039 do about the Virginia case you never 1042 00:59:36,869 --> 00:59:43,170 heard of it nothing now but anyway even 1043 00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:45,750 though the brazillian your foot's 1044 00:59:43,170 --> 00:59:47,369 closure is yet incomplete because of 1045 00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:51,150 course they are not releasing everything 1046 00:59:47,369 --> 00:59:54,029 it yeah it has given us concrete data 1047 00:59:51,150 --> 00:59:56,099 regarding the UFO phenomena rise to the 1048 00:59:54,030 --> 00:59:58,530 surface and reveal their correct 1049 00:59:56,099 --> 01:00:03,529 mystics in the review what the UFOs are 1050 00:59:58,530 --> 01:00:07,040 and they are Mar most most more advanced 1051 01:00:03,530 --> 01:00:10,800 than any technology that the we know and 1052 01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:17,340 after we start our contain thousands of 1053 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:22,340 pages would come in bunks and in box the 1054 01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:27,650 50s the 60s the 70s the 80s whatever and 1055 01:00:22,340 --> 01:00:30,930 we have that on our files so now we know 1056 01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:36,150 what the Brazilian UFO government knows 1057 01:00:30,929 --> 01:00:38,549 about UFOs it's quite interesting if you 1058 01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:43,650 sit and start reading those pages you 1059 01:00:38,550 --> 01:00:49,650 will be amazed and while we start doing 1060 01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:55,050 this this campaign very surprisingly to 1061 01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:59,039 us top ranking UFO excuse me Brazilian 1062 01:00:55,050 --> 01:01:01,920 military gave us their support like this 1063 01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:03,750 general this Brigadier this gentleman 1064 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,849 who was the commander of the Brazilian 1065 01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:07,980 space Defense Command look what he said 1066 01:01:05,849 --> 01:01:10,769 our secret documents must be released 1067 01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:14,250 the UFO phenomena does not pose a threat 1068 01:01:10,769 --> 01:01:16,739 to the national security it must be we 1069 01:01:14,250 --> 01:01:19,969 must become acknowledged by all society 1070 01:01:16,739 --> 01:01:23,069 and not only by concern your for hunters 1071 01:01:19,969 --> 01:01:25,679 it must be acknowledged by all society 1072 01:01:23,070 --> 01:01:27,539 it doesn't pose a threat to the national 1073 01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:29,699 security this is what they think about 1074 01:01:27,539 --> 01:01:33,480 this is the phenomena pose a threat in 1075 01:01:29,699 --> 01:01:37,679 the national security no UFOs don't so 1076 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:41,099 why keep the data secret let's he build 1077 01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:48,839 them all and by the way it was this guy 1078 01:01:41,099 --> 01:01:51,858 who did two very important actions 50 1079 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:55,470 minutes 10 10 1080 01:01:51,858 --> 01:01:57,989 alright it was this guy who started two 1081 01:01:55,469 --> 01:01:59,250 very important actions first we know 1082 01:01:57,989 --> 01:02:01,078 that since the 50s 1083 01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:03,298 all you have four reports given to the 1084 01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:07,260 Brazilian Air Force were being written 1085 01:02:03,298 --> 01:02:10,769 down now he had them all digitalized you 1086 01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:12,150 know huge data bank and from the year 1087 01:02:10,769 --> 01:02:18,599 2000 and forth 1088 01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:20,838 he had this form two pilots report UFO 1089 01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:24,510 sightings now if you are a pilot 1090 01:02:20,838 --> 01:02:28,288 Brazilian or not but flying in Brazil 1091 01:02:24,510 --> 01:02:31,319 and you report a UFO through the radio 1092 01:02:28,289 --> 01:02:33,000 it means it goes official because if you 1093 01:02:31,318 --> 01:02:35,818 want to see and one report it's not 1094 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,960 official but if you see and report it's 1095 01:02:35,818 --> 01:02:42,538 official and if it's official you are 1096 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:45,780 supposed to get down when you land not 1097 01:02:42,539 --> 01:02:48,059 don't crash if when you land and get 1098 01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:51,750 that report fill it out and give to the 1099 01:02:48,059 --> 01:02:53,880 government that was that man the other 1100 01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:54,989 Brigadier attend us ambush also 1101 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,630 commander of the Brazilian Air Force 1102 01:02:54,989 --> 01:02:59,548 Defense Command look what he said the 1103 01:02:57,630 --> 01:03:01,710 investigation of the UFO phenomena must 1104 01:02:59,548 --> 01:03:03,838 be conducted by civilian investigators 1105 01:03:01,710 --> 01:03:06,568 it is an obligation of the Brazilian Air 1106 01:03:03,838 --> 01:03:10,619 Force's reported in this task and we 1107 01:03:06,568 --> 01:03:14,429 shall do so or we shall do it we are 1108 01:03:10,619 --> 01:03:16,410 still expecting that support and another 1109 01:03:14,429 --> 01:03:18,358 guy which was the last one that I 1110 01:03:16,409 --> 01:03:21,449 interviewed Brigadier sockets wanted of 1111 01:03:18,358 --> 01:03:23,278 course all of them are retired he was 1112 01:03:21,449 --> 01:03:25,169 the former minister of Aeronautics he 1113 01:03:23,278 --> 01:03:29,068 said Brazilian military have been 1114 01:03:25,170 --> 01:03:30,990 monitoring UFO for decades and these are 1115 01:03:29,068 --> 01:03:34,288 words that come from the Brigadier who 1116 01:03:30,989 --> 01:03:35,939 was was the very top in the country the 1117 01:03:34,289 --> 01:03:38,400 most ranked UFO 1118 01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:42,269 military in Brazil and he said their 1119 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,400 technology UFOs technology is immensely 1120 01:03:42,269 --> 01:03:50,038 more advanced than ours and the action 1121 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:54,900 must be of public knowledge now in our 1122 01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:56,819 campaign we did so much noise of course 1123 01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:59,970 where Brazilians were supposed to make 1124 01:03:56,818 --> 01:04:02,460 noise and we did so much noise but so 1125 01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:04,980 much noise with the press that we were 1126 01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:08,519 invited by the Brazilian 1127 01:04:04,980 --> 01:04:12,139 history of defense to meet with the 1128 01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:14,699 commanders of each one of the forces 1129 01:04:12,139 --> 01:04:16,679 Brazilian Air Force Brazilian Navy in 1130 01:04:14,699 --> 01:04:21,719 Brazilian Army and it took place in 1131 01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:24,118 April 18 it's 2 or 13 at 10:30 all right 1132 01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:28,289 that's the Ministry of Defense our mo D 1133 01:04:24,119 --> 01:04:30,300 these guys are are half the Brazilian 1134 01:04:28,289 --> 01:04:32,449 country of UFO researchers and we were 1135 01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:37,800 there 1136 01:04:32,449 --> 01:04:40,349 see this is Francisco Thiago Jenner 1137 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:45,769 the chief Fernando and his handsome guys 1138 01:04:40,349 --> 01:04:49,469 me we are discussing with the military 1139 01:04:45,769 --> 01:04:53,150 we are telling them what we wanted we 1140 01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:57,149 were invited to go there and say what we 1141 01:04:53,150 --> 01:05:00,539 UFO researchers sick what we want from 1142 01:04:57,150 --> 01:05:04,590 them and we had a chance to talk to one 1143 01:05:00,539 --> 01:05:06,690 guy from the command of the army another 1144 01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:09,240 from the command of the Navy another 1145 01:05:06,690 --> 01:05:13,230 from the command of our forsen we 1146 01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:17,879 explained all we have and all we wanted 1147 01:05:13,230 --> 01:05:21,179 and it was from promised to us that we 1148 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:24,570 will get more and more disclosure in the 1149 01:05:21,179 --> 01:05:27,989 next years now this is also something 1150 01:05:24,570 --> 01:05:31,559 that you will never see at least up to 1151 01:05:27,989 --> 01:05:35,489 now or you have never seen in know where 1152 01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:39,150 in the world have UFO researchers 1153 01:05:35,489 --> 01:05:41,389 civilians being invited by the minister 1154 01:05:39,150 --> 01:05:44,910 of defense of their country to meet and 1155 01:05:41,389 --> 01:05:47,639 to say what they want it happened to us 1156 01:05:44,909 --> 01:05:53,099 and I'm I'm very proud that it happened 1157 01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:56,069 to us now is the secrecy over of course 1158 01:05:53,099 --> 01:05:58,679 not they even though they have given us 1159 01:05:56,070 --> 01:06:01,920 7,000 pages it's nothing I would say 1160 01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:06,089 that is perhaps 10% 20% of all they have 1161 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:09,659 so they gave us what they could give us 1162 01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:14,400 and some more exciting paper but the 1163 01:06:09,659 --> 01:06:18,420 secrecy still remains and but now we are 1164 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:21,820 seeing several countries 1165 01:06:18,420 --> 01:06:24,579 doing just about the same what they have 1166 01:06:21,820 --> 01:06:27,670 given us in Brazil is this the tip of 1167 01:06:24,579 --> 01:06:29,920 the iceberg but we are greedy guys we 1168 01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:33,280 want everything that is underneath the 1169 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:35,260 what oh it's too big to carry well we do 1170 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:39,400 several trips but we will carry them all 1171 01:06:35,260 --> 01:06:42,220 home and have it right now we have 1172 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:45,070 countries like France Uruguay do you 1173 01:06:42,219 --> 01:06:48,399 know that dude why has a UFO Committee 1174 01:06:45,070 --> 01:06:51,450 for we have an unofficial country for 1175 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:56,320 your for research since 1979 1176 01:06:51,449 --> 01:06:59,069 yes he does so does Chile Chile has a 1177 01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:03,130 committee of your four researchers 1178 01:06:59,070 --> 01:07:08,200 inside the civilian aviation department 1179 01:07:03,130 --> 01:07:10,630 of Chile since 1997 several other 1180 01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:15,669 countries here have given up their 1181 01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:17,740 secrets Italy Canada England some now in 1182 01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:20,980 the end England comes with documents 1183 01:07:17,739 --> 01:07:23,439 Spain 1983 now even countries that 1184 01:07:20,980 --> 01:07:26,260 didn't have a exact and a tradition of 1185 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:30,010 covering up or UFOs such as German or 1186 01:07:26,260 --> 01:07:35,800 Denmark or Australia or New Zealand they 1187 01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:38,380 have all released documents and as long 1188 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:43,180 as Peru now in South America or why 1189 01:07:38,380 --> 01:07:46,650 Chile Peru Ecuador missed Ecuador here 1190 01:07:43,179 --> 01:07:51,940 I'm sorry in Argentina they all have 1191 01:07:46,650 --> 01:07:55,329 working right now buddies to officially 1192 01:07:51,940 --> 01:07:58,450 investigate UFOs and I included the 1193 01:07:55,329 --> 01:08:02,199 Vatican some people must be thinking why 1194 01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:05,349 did he included the Vatican my friends 1195 01:08:02,199 --> 01:08:07,599 the Vatican is probably the state or the 1196 01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:11,949 organization that depends on how is it 1197 01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:13,420 that most know about UFOs was even 1198 01:08:11,949 --> 01:08:15,250 though these are other countries and the 1199 01:08:13,420 --> 01:08:18,279 United States in particular have been 1200 01:08:15,250 --> 01:08:21,670 ins investigating UFOs for six years the 1201 01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:24,880 Vatican has getting reports of UFOs for 1202 01:08:21,670 --> 01:08:26,380 four or five hundred of years from all 1203 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,109 over the world 1204 01:08:26,380 --> 01:08:33,190 let me tell you something something more 1205 01:08:29,109 --> 01:08:37,030 see we are doing this not because we the 1206 01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:40,059 UFO researchers want the truth for us we 1207 01:08:37,029 --> 01:08:42,039 went truth for everybody we wanted 1208 01:08:40,060 --> 01:08:45,910 through for the entire Brazilian society 1209 01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:48,489 for the entire world this is why we join 1210 01:08:45,909 --> 01:08:51,309 our so campaigns made in other countries 1211 01:08:48,489 --> 01:08:54,849 because we have succeeded in Brazil if 1212 01:08:51,310 --> 01:08:56,620 we can help someone else to succeed in 1213 01:08:54,850 --> 01:08:59,380 their country if again we can do of any 1214 01:08:56,619 --> 01:09:01,689 assistance answer well we're there 1215 01:08:59,380 --> 01:09:05,800 because we want this to be known by 1216 01:09:01,689 --> 01:09:07,960 everybody the UFO presence the alien 1217 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:11,670 presence in our planet which is 1218 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:15,220 millinery which has been on for 1219 01:09:11,670 --> 01:09:19,440 thousands of years must be of entire 1220 01:09:15,220 --> 01:09:21,760 knowledge of the society now in Brazil 1221 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,619 the original destination of this 1222 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,760 material is the National Archives either 1223 01:09:23,619 --> 01:09:30,250 in Brasilia or in Rio de Janeiro and 1224 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:33,010 this is it this is the address where you 1225 01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:37,930 can find all the documents and download 1226 01:09:33,010 --> 01:09:41,470 it in PDF format right ok so thank you 1227 01:09:37,930 --> 01:09:43,680 very much again really appreciate thank 1228 01:09:41,470 --> 01:09:43,680 you 1229 01:09:46,420 --> 01:09:49,109 thank you